Home Site of Isaac Cuthbert Collier now Piedmont Park? – Maybe!

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Home of Isaac Cuthbert and Sara Means Collier, Piedmont, Georgia

The back of this photo bears the following note:

“The home of Isaac Cuthbert Collier and Sara Means Collier back in the early 70’s” (meaning 1870’s) “where J. C. Collier resided until he was thirteen years old, the front porch being torn away, now used as cattle barn.  Photo taken Dec. 12, 1943”

The home site was in the community of Piedmont, next to the dry goods store and cotton gin owned by IC Collier and within his 3000-acre farm.  Over the years, all the land of the farm was sold away except one acre where the store and gin stood with the home site immediately adjacent.  None of the buildings are there today.

In May 2015, the following letter was presented to the Lamar County Board of Commissioners.

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In June 2015, the Commissioners voted to accept the donation.  The site lies about four miles north of The Rock on Piedmont Road.

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  1. Elaine on July 15, 2015 at 5:09 pm said:

    Dear Glen, I am delighted and impressed by the land donation and the Commissioners response. That’s great news. Good work.

    Cousin Elaine Collier Neal

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  1. John Collier on November 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm said:

    I descend from the Efford Cobb Collier line that moved to Texas. My dad got extensively into genealogy in the 80’s and compiled a large document of the family line in Texas and some of Efford’s siblings that he obtained from Georgia distant relatives doing the same thing. It must be a descendant of Jena Cuthbert Collier as there is an extensive section.

    I’ve been putting all this work into Family Search, scanning photos and have even scanned most of his volume.

    The articles here are very interesting but I haven’t found any “trees” of family data. Are there?

    Is there interest in the “Texas” cousins and how could I best share it?

  2. collierheritage on November 5, 2015 at 11:08 pm said:

    Welcome! And thanks for your interest and inquiry. Efford C. Collier was the son of Robert Collier, and the grandson of Vines Collier. One of Efford’s siblings was Robert Marshall Collier. Robert Marshall was the father of Isaac Cuthbert Collier and the grandfather of Jena Cuthbert Collier. So, Efford C. would have been Jena’s great-uncle.

    If you haven’t done so, please take a look at the archived posts for January and
    February 2015. The post entitled “Background” tells how this site was started. I think it will be helpful moving forward for there a lot of things to post and tie together for your Texas branch. In short, Jena and Elmer (a descendant of Efford C.) separately sought out their ancestry. Jena made a least one trip to Texas to introduce himself to his relatives descended from Efford C. There was much correspondence between the two lines and CHF has many of the letters. Many of the them date to the 1920s and are no doubt to or from your ancestors or relatives.

    I am excited to have you join this website for I was hoping to attract the interest of the Central Texas line. There is much to share. I am in East Texas and also a descendant of Vines Collier through his son, Williamson.

    I will try to post something of specific interest in the next few days Please “subscribe” so you will be notified. Also, if you will select “contact” at the top of the page and send an email I will provide additional information.

    Glen Collier

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Robert Marshall Collier, son of Robert & Martha Marshall Booker Collier

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Grave of Robert Marshall Collier, Mt. Zion Cemetery, Piedmont (Lamar County), Georgia. The plantation of Robert Marshall Collier surrounded the cemetery.

Robert Marshall Collier was a grandson of Vines and Elizabeth Collier of Oglethorpe County, Georgia.  He married Amanda F. Greene Dec. 24, 1835, and they had the following children: 1) Robert Thomas, 2) Martha, 3) Mary Fletcher, 4) Isaac Cuthbert, 5) William Vines, 6) Louisa Marshall, and 7) Amanda Virginia.

Amanda F. (Greene) Collier died in 1864.  Robert Marshall Collier’s Bible shows he married Susan Jane Whatley of Upson County, Georgia on Oct. 20, 1865.

Robert Marshall Collier was a pioneer planter who became one of the largest plantation owners in middle Georgia.  He was also the grandfather of Jena Cuthbert (J. C.) Collier.  Below is a photograph of the house of Robert Marshall Collier taken December 12, 1943.  The gentleman on the lawn is J. C. Collier.  The girl is his granddaughter, June Cason.

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Here is a photograph of the rear of the house, taken at the same time (Dec. 12, 1943). J. C. Collier is the gentleman on the left.

In 2003, I set out to locate the home built by Robert Marshall Collier over 150 years earlier.  Information said it was at The Rock and was recognizable by its several chimneys and figure 8 railing around the porch.  I found it just north of the railroad near the main intersection at The Rock.

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House built by Robert Marshall Collier as it appeared in 2003. Note the figure 8 railing and several chimneys in the first picture.

By 2009, the house had been remodeled and the chimneys and characteristic railing had been removed.

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The house built by Robert Marshall Collier as it appeared in 2012.

 

 

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  1. Jason Evers on January 19, 2017 at 2:25 pm said:

    Hi,

    Do you know when Robert Marshall Collier bought the house in The Rock? I own and am restoring the large house across the street, and am researching the surrounding area. I found a deed for the Collier house from 1869 from W L Carmichael to Robert M Collier. I can find no earlier deeds in the Collier name. This is a bit surprising because I had assumed he owned the house since it was new. I am also assuming that the house was built in the 1830’s as it’s an almost exact match for the James Anderson house just up the street, next to The Rock Ranch, it having been built in the 1830’s.

    I am interested in any information you may have on The Rock in general. I have not been able to find an old picture of my house yet.

    Thanks!

  2. collierheritage on January 19, 2017 at 3:34 pm said:

    Jason,

    Thanks for your interest. CHF has boxes of deeds, many of which have not been inventoried and scanned. There are also many documents that relate to The Rock. These will eventually be scanned and posted. Meanwhile, if you will sign up for blog notifications at the top right side of this page, it will provide your email address and I can let you know what we have. There are no solicitations that result from signing up.

    Thanks again!

  3. Jason Evers on January 19, 2017 at 5:56 pm said:

    Thanks, I just signed up. I would love to see whatever you have on the area!

    I tried posting the deed in my original comment but it kept failing. I tried again and still no luck.

    Thanks!

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Robert Collier, son of Vines & Elizabeth Collier

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Josh Rhodes, g-g-g-g-great grandson of Vines Collier cleans the dirt off the grave of Robert Collier in 2012.

From The History of Lamar County (Lambin, 1932), we find that Robert Collier, son of Vines and Elizabeth Williamson Collier was born in Oglethorpe County, Georgia in 1783.  He died in Upson County in 1850.  Robert was married to Martha Marshall Booker in 1806.    He “was one of the most influential and prominent men in middle Georgia.  He took part in the organization of Upson County, as shown in the records;  was the first representative to the General Assembly of the state, serving for two terms, and later was elected to the State Senate, being honored as the first senator in the history of the county.  Records show that he was prominent  in an educational way, and was one of the largest landowners of this section.  There were eight children born to this union:

1. Edith Louisa, m. Sharman; 2. William Vines, m. Elizabeth Lamar Smead, of Columbus Georgia; 3. Sarah smith, m. William Parham, of Talbotton, and then Judge Lovett; 4. Efford Cobb, moved to Texas; 5. Mary Booker, m. John Miniphee, of Alabama; 6. Robert Marshall; 7. Isaac Cuthbert, of Macon, Georgia; 8. Frances Elizabeth, m. Jack Evans, of Columbus, Georgia.”

Robert and Martha Collier came to Upson County in 1824 as the County was being formed.  As a prelude to his later political contributions, Robert served as one of the earliest Justices of the Peace in Upson County, as evidenced by his signature on the following legal document dated July 10, 1828.

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My no doubt flawed transcription follows.

Georgia UpsonTo2Robert and Martha settled in an area south of The Rock, Georgia and lived there until their death.  Robert died in 1850 and Martha died in 1875 at the age of 97.  Both are buried on the land known as the “Collier Place”.

Jena Cuthbert (J. C.) Collier), great-grandson of Robert Collier, visited the site of the Robert Collier Plantation in 1929 and took the following pictures.

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J.C. Collier in 1929 at the grave of his great-grandfather, Robert Collier.  J. C. purchased the land comprising the cemetery.

 

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House of Robert and Martha Collier. Photograph taken by J. C. Collier in 1929.

Notes on the following photographs show they were taken December 13, 1943.  The photos were found in the desk of J. C. Collier, and he is assumed to be the gentleman in the pictures.  J. C. Collier died the following year in 1944.

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In 2012, members of the Collier Heritage Foundation found the burial site of Robert Collier three hundred yards from the plantation home shown in the pictures.  By that time the house had collapsed and little remained but the brick chimneys.  The small cemetery was unmaintained but in good condition as it was protected by a canopy of large trees.  At least a dozen graves were identified.  One grave was marked with a cairn of bricks while the rest were marked with field stones.  No grave marker bore a visible inscription.

The following year, in 2013, the Collier Heritage Foundation marked the cemetery with this monument.

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  1. Joshua Rhodes on May 4, 2015 at 12:20 pm said:

    Very nice! That was fun finding that place.

    • Rebecca Page on May 24, 2015 at 7:34 pm said:

      I’m also 6th generation grand daughter to Vines. My father has done extensive research on our family. We should connect.

      Rebecca (Collier) Page

  2. Leo geiger on May 14, 2016 at 9:58 pm said:

    My name is Leo Geiger ,I spent my first seven years of school in Piedmont Lamar CO. I am the grand son of Anna Collier Geiger and great grand son of Ben and cythia Collier ,iknew j.c. Collier personnelly , but heard about Mr Gena and I think isaac Collier . knew mrs cason real well . my mother is buried in Piedmont and we often wondered if there were any colliers around . these are people I heard my elderly family talk about , I am 72 yrs old and left Piedmont in 1954 but attended school until 1956 . thanks , good history .

    • collierheritage on May 15, 2016 at 8:17 pm said:

      Thanks for your message and welcome to our website. There is more to come about Jena Cuthbert (J.C.) Collier and Piedmont. We’d love to hear any history you can provide us.

  3. Leo geiger on May 23, 2016 at 12:23 am said:

    Correction, knew D.C C collier personnelly , we always said Mr dulber . Heard lots of stories about Mr jc Collier . And about and aunt Jennie being his nurse when he died.and how could not know Mr jc Collier, when my brother and I knocked the back door off his Packard, u see he was out at my grandfather Walter Geiger and Anna Collier Geiger house one night as many times he would come out and stop
    By. As we left ahead of him , we saw these lights and thought he was our cousin’s and decided to play this swerving game but Mr Collier was not up on game . So that’s how he lost back door. And all that Mr. Collier could say was : y’all gonna pay for this, y’all gonna pay for this ” . Gin was gone, remains of big store was there with side walk in front, train still ran, depot was active in early child hood . Huge gin wells was there with wood covers worked as a kid on no.2 farm beautiful place to be raised . Played and fished on “STRESCH”(where little potato and big potato Creek meets). Have pictures of great grandpa Ben and cythia Collier, who left Piedmont no.2 farm in the 30,s and resided in Chattanooga Tennessee. Also picture of grandpa Walter and Anna Collier Geiger who lost house by fire in 1959 and moved to barnesville. Excited about some kind of monument, had inquired about trying to put something out there.

  4. Newton Collier on November 2, 2016 at 3:30 pm said:

    Great news!

  5. jerry collier on February 6, 2018 at 3:08 pm said:

    nice job gg grandson of Arteamus collier from Wetumpka al relation to vines collier note .. very large collier cemetary in Wetumpka some 1700s.

  6. Sheronda on May 12, 2018 at 2:52 pm said:

    I am a descendant of one of the slave families your family owned: The Minitees/Minitae. Im searching for information. Would you be willing to help?

    • Brenda DiCristina on June 7, 2018 at 2:42 pm said:

      Sheronda, I descend from Vines Collier to Robert Collier – then I am off in another direction. If you need any help on those two lines, I would be happy to help you.

  7. SaTrice on June 25, 2018 at 8:01 pm said:

    I think I am a descendant of one of the slave families owned by Robert Collier. John and Vinnie Collier. John was born about 1812. Does enyone have any information on the slaves they owned.

    • Rebecca Page on June 25, 2018 at 8:23 pm said:

      SaTtice, I’m Vines 6th gen grandauther. Have always been interested in my heritage. I live in Atlanta with our 4 kids and would so enjoy helping piece our family. Feel free to call me. It would be great to connect.

      Rebecca

  8. SaTrice on June 25, 2018 at 8:06 pm said:

    I think I am a descendant of one of the slave families owned by Robert Collier, John and Vinnie Collier. John was born about 1812. Does anyone have any information on the slaves they owned?

  9. Bailey Collier on January 16, 2019 at 11:41 am said:

    Hello, my name is Bailey Collier of Ohio. Grandson of Larry Collier from West Virginia! Not sure if there’s any direct connection with any of y’all but cool page to read!

  10. collierheritage on January 16, 2019 at 6:44 pm said:

    Welcome, Bailey! Do you have any other of your family’s lineage to share that might help?

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Collier-Howard House

DSC00889 In searching out their roots, descendants of Vines Collier often make a pilgrimage to Oglethorpe County, Georgia, and the Collier-Howard House, the home and burial site of the Collier patriarch.  The original portion of the Collier-Howard House was constructed by Vines Collier about 1790.  In 2010, the Colonial Dames honored the structure with an official marking ceremony.  The following text, by Elaine Collier Neal, was delivered as part of that ceremony.  It is posted here with Elaine’s permission.

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talk presented at Collier-Howard House marker dedication_Page_2 In 1929, Jena C. Collier took the following photographs of the house.

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This view shows the majestic setting atop a hill surrounded by cultivated fields.

Vines house from VCD           vines house 4Studies underway today may eventually lead to the Collier-Howard House being included in the National Registry of Historic Places.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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