Home Site of Isaac Cuthbert Collier now Piedmont Park? – Maybe!

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Home of Isaac Cuthbert and Sara Means Collier, Piedmont, Georgia

The back of this photo bears the following note:

“The home of Isaac Cuthbert Collier and Sara Means Collier back in the early 70’s” (meaning 1870’s) “where J. C. Collier resided until he was thirteen years old, the front porch being torn away, now used as cattle barn.  Photo taken Dec. 12, 1943”

The home site was in the community of Piedmont, next to the dry goods store and cotton gin owned by IC Collier and within his 3000-acre farm.  Over the years, all the land of the farm was sold away except one acre where the store and gin stood with the home site immediately adjacent.  None of the buildings are there today.

In May 2015, the following letter was presented to the Lamar County Board of Commissioners.

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In June 2015, the Commissioners voted to accept the donation.  The site lies about four miles north of The Rock on Piedmont Road.

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  1. Elaine on July 15, 2015 at 5:09 pm said:

    Dear Glen, I am delighted and impressed by the land donation and the Commissioners response. That’s great news. Good work.

    Cousin Elaine Collier Neal

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Isaac Cuthbert Collier, son of Robert Marshall & Amanda F. Greene Collier

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The final resting place of Isaac Cuthbert (I. C.) Collier, Greenwood Cemetery, Barnesville, GA, photo taken about 1909.

According to the entry in the family Bible, Isaac Cuthbert (I. C.) Collier was born June 24, 1844 to Robert M. and Amanda F. Greene Collier.  As with most Southern men of his time, he served in the Confederate army.  Returning from the war, he married Sarah Elizabeth Means December 21, 1865.  The couple had one child, a son, Jena Cuthbert (J. C.) Collier.  I. C. Collier died July 11, 1908 and was placed to rest in the pictured mausoleum built by his son, J. C. Collier. The following is the draft obituary of I. C. Collier, penned by J. C. in his own handwriting, and the subsequent article from the newspaper .

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  1. John Collier on November 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm said:

    I descend from the Efford Cobb Collier line that moved to Texas. My dad got extensively into genealogy in the 80’s and compiled a large document of the family line in Texas and some of Efford’s siblings that he obtained from Georgia distant relatives doing the same thing. It must be a descendant of Jena Cuthbert Collier as there is an extensive section.

    I’ve been putting all this work into Family Search, scanning photos and have even scanned most of his volume.

    The articles here are very interesting but I haven’t found any “trees” of family data. Are there?

    Is there interest in the “Texas” cousins and how could I best share it?

  2. collierheritage on November 5, 2015 at 11:08 pm said:

    Welcome! And thanks for your interest and inquiry. Efford C. Collier was the son of Robert Collier, and the grandson of Vines Collier. One of Efford’s siblings was Robert Marshall Collier. Robert Marshall was the father of Isaac Cuthbert Collier and the grandfather of Jena Cuthbert Collier. So, Efford C. would have been Jena’s great-uncle.

    If you haven’t done so, please take a look at the archived posts for January and
    February 2015. The post entitled “Background” tells how this site was started. I think it will be helpful moving forward for there a lot of things to post and tie together for your Texas branch. In short, Jena and Elmer (a descendant of Efford C.) separately sought out their ancestry. Jena made a least one trip to Texas to introduce himself to his relatives descended from Efford C. There was much correspondence between the two lines and CHF has many of the letters. Many of the them date to the 1920s and are no doubt to or from your ancestors or relatives.

    I am excited to have you join this website for I was hoping to attract the interest of the Central Texas line. There is much to share. I am in East Texas and also a descendant of Vines Collier through his son, Williamson.

    I will try to post something of specific interest in the next few days Please “subscribe” so you will be notified. Also, if you will select “contact” at the top of the page and send an email I will provide additional information.

    Glen Collier

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June 7, 2015:  Collier Family of York County Virginia

My name is Linda Cardwell.  I have researched the Collier Family of York County Virginia for over thirty (30) years. I am a direct descendant of “a Negro girl, Rachel” as mentioned in John Collier’s 1824 Last Will and Testament, Jasper County Georgia.  Rachel was presumably daughter of Harry and Caroline as they were grouped together in the will. I have traced my family through a series of Collier Family Last Wills and Testaments beginning with Isaac Collier (1771). 
I would like request any information in regards to slaves and/or negro manifests, bill of sales, inventories and estate sales.  I’m desperately trying to locate my love ones whom were separated from us doing this period.  I’m interested in the following documents:
1692 (Mary Collier Bennett, Wife of Isaac Collyer)
* I would like to know what happened to Slave Mary and her child
*Did Charles Collier (1722) have a slave named Coleman?
*What happened to Isaac Negroes upon his death in 1771? 
* Was Harry in the 1771 will purchased from William Bryd II?
1771 Last Will and Testament of Isaac Collier
*I would like to know if the Harry mentioned in the 1771 will same as in John’s 1824 will.   
According to history, this branch of Caucasian Collier were humane and just. As evident in Isaac Collier’s Last Will and Testament in which he forbade his Negroes to come in the possession of his own son-in- law, Henry Howard.
Now, I’m asking that you continue that family tradition in helping me find out what happened to my love ones. 
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  1. Ken Collier on June 11, 2015 at 11:16 am said:

    Linda, I have researched the descendants of Isaac Collier (1606-1682) who owned land in Elizabeth City County and have a copy of his will. Isaac seems to have come permanently to York County by 1655. His grandson, Charles Collier (1680-1753) both 350 acres there from Richard Lee. I am descended from this Charles Collier. I also have a list of the names of people enslaved by this branch of the Collier family. If you are interested in any of this, let me know.

  2. Elaine on June 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm said:

    Dear Linda,
    I am a descendant of John Collier of Jasper County, GA. His father was VInes Collier of York and then Brunswick County, VA. John chose not to inherit from his father Vines.
    I don’t know how John got his slaves. I have John’s list of slaves and who hired them and who in the Will of 1824 was to get them. John Collier had married a second wife Leah and she was to get most of them while she remained a widow which she did. She did move however to Newton Co. GA and died there. I have her obituary. She had her own children with her from her earlier marriage in Virginia. Do you have her will, her inventory, and etc. of these?
    As listed in the inventory of John Collier on 2 April 1825 with the person who hired them if that was mentioned:
    Robert Benton hired Negro man Gilbert; one Negro man Harry; one Negro woman Carole; one Negro man Parris; John Simmons hired Negro girl Rachel; Robert Collier hired Negro boy Abram; one Negro boy Colen; Robert Benton hired Negro girl Zemilee; Robert Collier hired Negro girl Cherry; Wm V Evans hired Negro boy Isaac; one Negro girl Malind; one Negro boy Henry; It just says Wm L Collier hired old Negros (he was John’s son and one of the executors); Thomas W Collier, another son, was the other executor of John Collier’s will.

    According to John’s will, his wife Leah was to get Negro boy Calomane, a Negro man Gilbert, Negro woman Caroline, a Negro girl Rachel, a Negro boy Isaac. As you see the will and the inventory are conflicting on what happened to the individuals.

    I don’t think this Calomane would be the same person as in the Virginia reference because of the passage of time but could have been a child named after him.

    • Linda. cardwell on June 17, 2015 at 9:53 pm said:

      According to an 1870 federal. Population census, Clifton beat Wilcox Alabama, Rachel (head of household), Henry and Zembla was residing together along with. Henry’s children Norton. Lucy. Felix. Harry. Zemly. Zembla (sp) had two children. Jasper and Macklin (sp). They were still residing on the property of a J.B. Collier. Henry’s had more children after 1870: Parrish Collier (my grandfather). John Collier. James Collier. Elizabeth Colliet and Caroline Colliet. Rachel was enumerated.in1880 now residing with son Henry in Wilcox. County.

      John may inherited.his negros from his grandmother when he married in 1794. Isaac bequeathed a Negro named Harry in 1771 will not his wife. Could the be the same Harry as in John”s 1824 will or son?

  3. Ronald (Ronnie) Collier on August 29, 2015 at 8:19 am said:

    My GGGgrandfather was Benjamin son of Vines Collier.

    • collierheritage on August 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm said:

      Welcome and thanks for connecting! Feel free to share any related information you might have on the CHF website.

    • Linda Cardwell on August 30, 2015 at 9:05 pm said:

      Hey Ronnie,
      Ironically, I’m in the library attempting to established a tracker of All the Negros owned by Isaak Collyer (aka Isaac Collier Sr.) and his heirs. Specially, the descendant of Charles>Isaac>Vines lineage. So far, I have been successful in tracking Negros owned by John Collier, Elizabeth (Josiah Smith) Collier as well as Judith (James Hicks) Collier. Although Robert Collier listed as having forty-one Negros but I could only locate the names of four and an unknown child.

      Ronnie if you have a list of Benjamin Collier’s Negros, I would greatly appreciate you sharing this information with me. My goal is to see how many of these Negro lineage still exits and how many are related (most likely through DNA testing).

      I will forever be appreciative of Elaine whom has given my family such a precious gift. She provided me the names of John Collier’s Negros. I’m the direct descendant of “Negro girl Rachel” as listed in John Collier’s 1824 Last Will and Testament. And most likely, I’m a descendant of a women “Rachel” listed in Isaac Collier’s 1771 Inventory (New Brunswick).

      Thank you so….much. Linda

  4. Maryhelen Thompson on May 22, 2017 at 9:28 pm said:

    I am Vines Issac Collier’s 6th great granddaughter….I would like some of all his papers too…can I get copies….My aunt had his coat of arms….had being the key word…but I’d be happy to purchase…copies of his papers

  5. collierheritage on May 23, 2017 at 7:50 am said:

    Maryhelen,

    Thank you for joining us! Any of the papers or photos here may be downloaded to your computer. If you have difficulty with that or want better resolution, let me know and I’ll email the items to you. If you prefer paper copies, I can arrange that, if your request is not too extensive.

    What exactly is your line from Vines Collier?

    Glen

  6. My 7x great-grandmother was a Mary COLLIER 1690–1765

    BIRTH CA 1690 • Calvert, Maryland, Colonial America
    DEATH JUNE 1765 • Possibly: Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina, USA

    She married George Bussey III in South Carolina in about 1710. I have no clue as to her parents!

  7. collierheritage on August 27, 2017 at 12:34 pm said:

    Carolyn.

    Welcome and thanks for the introduction. We’re glad you found this website. Maybe someone here can fill in some blanks for you.

    Glen

  8. Linda Cardwell on October 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm said:

    I recently discovered my ancestors were purchased by John Collier, son of Vines Collier between 1794 and 1800. My oldest known ancestors were Bette and her child Cate; Cate and her children/gchildren: Rachel, Lucy, Lydia (Broadnax), Bob and Jamey; Fanny and her children Paris and Isaac. My ancestors were found in James Parrish 1754 LWAT; John Hatley Norton 1794 LWAT: codicil; George Wythe 1787 Agreement; John Collier 1824 LWAT; estate inventory, bill of sale). Ironically, my ggGrandr Henry named his children: Norton, Lucy, Felix, Harry, Parrish (my grandfather), Zemly, John, James, Elizabeth and Catherine. If you have any additional information on my ancestors, please share.

  9. Janet Butler Walker on December 26, 2018 at 7:13 pm said:

    I’m descended from Randolph H. Collier b. c 1779 pbl VA, d. 17 Nov 1852 Monroe or Pike County, GA. He married Nancy Ann Cole abt 1818 in maybe Kershaw County, SC. Their children were: Benjamin Thomas Collier b. 1819 SC; Elizabeth C. Collier b. 1822 SC; James W. Collier b. 1824; Winifred Rebecca Collier b. 1827; Mary Ellen Collier b. 1830. His father is sometimes listed as Thomas Collier.

    Is this Collier family related to Vines Collier? Where did Randolph H. Collier get his name?

    Hoping someone has information on these Colliers!

  10. Marla Sammons on January 7, 2019 at 1:04 pm said:

    I came across your site while researching my husband’s maternal Collier line.His Collier relatives are descended from Isaac-Isaac-Micajah-Caleb-John Vorhees-John Marion. Irvin Collier(son of John Vorhees Collier) was my husband’s maternal grandfather.Irvin’s daughter Shirley was my husband’s mother.Thanks to all who are making this research accessible! I am able to add many generations to his family line.

  11. collierheritage on January 7, 2019 at 1:58 pm said:

    We’re glad you’ve found us. Let us know if you have something of your husband’s line to contribute.

  12. Marla Sammons on February 11, 2019 at 9:41 am said:

    Disclaimer:I am an amateur genealogist,but based on the documented and well-researched information compiled by your members I would like to add a few possibilities of the Collier ancestry for consideration. Johannes de Liestes was sent by the mother Abbey to Selincourt.St. Pierre de Selincourt Abbey was founded in 1131 by Walter Tyrrell III(Gauthier du Thirel).He also founded Sainte Larme du Christ(Holy Tear of Christ). This information can be found on line in a book “Further Genealogical Notes on the Tyrrell -Terrell Family of Virginia” by Edwin Holland Terrell published in San Antonio,Texas in 1909.
    The Tyrrell family was well connected to nobility and royalty. Several family members went on the Crusades.
    Johannes (Colie Re) served as a bailiff or magistrate. Colie re is a Latin law term meaning to unite or reconcile.When writing a letter today we use the term RE meaning ‘ in the matter of’.
    These are just my personal observations,but they fit the historical narrative.
    Thank you for your consideration.

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Robert Marshall Collier’s Papers

Robert Marshall Collier became one of the largest plantation owners in middle Georgia.  Here is a deed dated Dec. 1, 1858 where RMC acquired 201-1/2 acres from Williams Harp for a price of $1,050.00.

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Within a few months he is documented as buying another 100 acres from the Harp Estate.  The price was $600.00.

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Robert Thomas Collier, son of Robert Marshall and Amanda F. Collier, was born Dec. 7, 1837.  Robert Thomas was married to Sarah E. Stafford on May 6, 1856.  He enlisted in the Woodson Guards, Company I, 32d Regiment, Georgia Volunteer Infantry, Army of Tennessee, C.S.A., as a private on May 7, 1862.  Records show he died in Savannah prior  to February 17, 1863.  Measles is listed as the cause of death.

Robert Marshall settled the Estate of his son, Robert Thomas, in 1876, as shown by these two documents.

1876_01_03_Robert T Collier Estate Appraisal 1876_01_03_RTC Estate legal doc fees

As Jena Cuthbert Collier put together his family’s history, he sought information from those who had served with his uncle, Robert Thomas Collier.  Here is the January 26, 1923 reply to his inquiry from an aging Confederate veteran.

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And the transcription:

1923_01_26_Ltr D W Lewis to JCC re Robert Thomas Collier CSA_Page_2

 

Robert Marshall Collier was deeded the land holdings of his mother, Martha Marshall Booker Collier (daughter-in-law of Vines and Elizabeth Collier), before she passed away.    Here is the deed that transferred the property in 1870.

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After the death of Martha Marshall Booker Collier, Robert Marshall Collier administered her estate.

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1877_10_20_Notice of Appraisement to RMC re Martha Collier Estate

This document shows the portion of the estate received by Edith Louisa (Collier) Sharman, sister of Robert M. Collier.

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In 1881, Robert Marshall Collier partnered with Thomas Black to purchase the rights to use a patented Gin Saw Filing Machine.1881_05_30_Gin Saw Filing Machine to RMC and Thomas Black

Here is a list of items sold from the Jas. G. Whatley Estate.  Robert Marshall Collier’s second wife was Susan Jane Whatley.  Many of the items at the sale were purchased by Robert Marshall Collier.

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  1. Michelle Redus on June 7, 2015 at 9:34 am said:

    It’s amazing how just a mere piece of paper (or onion skin 🙂 can encapsule so much history and knowledge of our ancestors. The document showing the rights to use the saw filling machine is like artwork…what a find!

  2. Tom Brigman on September 26, 2015 at 10:42 pm said:

    I read the June 15, 2015 issue of Collier Heritage and was glad to see the information about Robert Thomas Collier. I had wondered where his death date of June 29, 1862, originated. The Confederate record just list it as prior to Feb 17, 1863. I am very interested in any information on Robert Thomas Collier and his son Robert Thomas, as my wife is a descendant of Robert Thomas Collier. If anyone has information on this line please contact me. Thanks.

  3. collierheritage on September 27, 2015 at 8:29 am said:

    Tom,
    Thank you for your inquiry. We are grateful you have found something here of interest to you.

    The date came from the handwritten letter of D. W. Lewis (above) in response to an inquiry from J C Collier. Lewis apparently served with Robert Thomas Collier. His response to J C was written in 1923, some 60 years after Robert Thomas’ death, so that should be considered in assessing its accuracy. There may be other relevant information still to be found in the papers of Robert Marshall Collier. We will keep your interest in mind.

    If your wife is a descendant of Robert Thomas Collier, she may also be interested in documents related to the Staffords, which was the maiden name of Robert Thomas’ wife. There many Stafford papers which have not yet been inventoried. If you are interested please send me an email at collierheritage@gmail.com and I can send a you few items that may not be posted here for some time.

    Meanwhile, please “SUBSCRIBE” here so that you can follow our posts.

    Glen Collier

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